the nsa enu.s. are good at finding you, but, again, it's not a clear case of oh, this came from this person sitting here. neil: if you're not ashamed to say you're the syria electronic army, yao not coming from ireland. what's the purpose there? >> that's publicity. we can reach you across your ocean. neil: attack us, lob missiles at us, but we're knocking down your -- >> it's the first step in a global response. we're going to take all hackers, you're the bully, even though using chemical weapons is okay, you know, moral -- i hope for them, but they come and show they have the ability to attack the mighty united states where it hurts most, in our cyber capacity. that's the type of thing that, frankly, we should be doing a much better job than the federal government. we should be focusing on this issue. neil: well, for all we know, the nsa is. we'll see. could i ask you, are these attacks, when i see them happen, some are short lived, a few minutes, and they are up and running again or hours, but th